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USA Today Chat Transcript
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Tuesday, Oct. 31, 3 p.m. ET Celebrate Halloween with one of the men Stephen King called "the future of horror": author/producer/director Clive Barker. He's online to talk about Imajica, the dream sea Quiddity, the islands of Ephemeris, his terrifying Books of Blood, and (of course) his nightmarish signature work, Hellraiser. Join in....if you dare. Missed the live chat? Read the transcript below: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment from USATODAY.com Host: Hello all, and happy Halloween. Please be sure to check out USATODAY.com's Halloween roundup.
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Houston, Texas : Which of your novels marks the fine line you draw between your previous incarnation as a horror writer and your career as a fantasy writer? Clive Barker: Hi everyone, and thanks for being here! My book "Weaveworld" from 1987 would mark the change. I have backslid on many occasions writing horror for the screen, and I may write more in the future, but it isn't a high priority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- boulder, colorado: Any plans on writing another book, involving the themes of the great and secret show and everville? Clive Barker: Absolutely! I owe to my readers a third book of that much delayed trilogy. I know what the book is going to be about, and that's why I've been slow to deliver it. It'll be enormous (and you know I mean enormous!). I'm a little anxious about the challenge of what needs to be done in the book; but it's going to be one helluva book. I'll start in a couple of years' time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylva NC: I thought that the movie Lord of Illusions was sopose to be the first of a series... So I was just wondering what happened to the rest. Will we ever see then even if it's just on VHS or DVD? Clive Barker: I think we will see more movies about Harry D'Amour, and it will be as you anticipated, on DVD/VHS more likely than on the big screen. Unfortunately, the movie "Lord of Illusions" did only modestly well theatrically, and the powers that be did not think it deserved a theatrical sequel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prattville, AL: I haven't book shopped in a long time so I don't know if you have a sequel but my all time favorite is Imajica. I've read it at least a dozen times. If there isn't a sequel to Imajica will there be? Clive Barker: Wow! A dozen times! "Imajica" is my favorite amongst my books. I don't think there will be a sequel, simply because I feel as though thematically the narrative was satisfying and complete in itself. That is not to say that I might not wake one morning having dreamt a sequel into being. "Imajica" was a book which was fueled by literally dozens of dreams, which informed the direction of the narrative and the nature of the imagery. May I say, thank you for your enthusiasm for the book. I hope each time you read it you find something fresh in its pages. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Altanta, Georgia: How did you come up with the characters for Hellraiser? And the story for Weaveworld? I've read all of your books except Quiddity, which I will pick up this week. Stephen King and you are my favorite novelist. Clive Barker: Thanks for linking me for the great Mr. King, for whom I have boundless admiration. The Cenobites from Hellraiser were first drawn in a sketch pad as doodles. I find my mind works best when it's liberated from intellectual constraints. Doodling is a great way to get characters started. As to "Weaveworld", the story originates with a particular carpet, which was a gift to me from my ex-art teacher. I stared at it for many weeks, certain there was something waiting in its weave. There was. A novel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DC: Why horror and not some other genre? Clive Barker: I think the work you write chooses you, not the other way about. In the next two years, I will deliver a large, very dark, supernatural book about Hollywood called "Cold Heart Canyon", and then deliver four short fantasy books called "The Abarat Quartet". The books could not be more different. But something in me requires me to sit down and write in these particular modes. If you were to ask me to write, for instance, a Tom Clancy style techno thriller, I couldn't do it. My imagination simply doesn't work that way. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fairfax, VA: The "Books of Blood" scared the living daylights out of me. Where did those stories come from? Good Lord. Clive Barker: Good Lord indeed! The stories came from many sources. "Midnight Meat Train" came from a sultry summer visit to New York, and my getting lost on the subway at midnight. "New Murders in the Rue Morgue" was written in five days while I was snowed in in Paris with my late lamented best friend, Bill Henry (who used to be theater reviewer for Time Magazine); Bill and I were stuck in a tiny apartment in the most ferocious blizzard Paris had seen in years. He wrote an article that later won him a Pulitzer. I wrote "New Murders in the Rue Morgue". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arlington, VA: Horror movies tend to be the most suceptible to serialization and sequels (including Hellraiser). Were you involved in the sequels to Hellraiser? It appears that most sequels are pretty poor compared to the originals (just take a look at Nightmare on Elm Street or The Blair Witch Project). So what's the point of making them, apart from $$$? Clive Barker: There is no point in making them, apart from money. You're absolutely right that - with the honorable exception of "Bride of Frankenstein" - most sequels are imaginatively impoverished, mere echoes of whatever fueled the original. I was involved in Hellraisers 2,3, and 4, but not with 5, which has just come out. I was involved with the second Candyman picture - which is set in New Orleans, from which city I am presently speaking - but not the third Candyman movie. In future, I think I will have less and less to do with the making of sequels. It's a wretched, frustrating business. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York, N.Y.: Which is more fun, writing or movies? Clive Barker: Writing always. There are no censors when you're writing. No budgets. There are no producers. There are countless things in my fiction which could never be put on the screen, however sophisticated special effects become. Why? Because the greatest special effect is the human imagination. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York, N.Y.: Who are your favorite authors? What's your favorite genre of book? Clive Barker: I don't have a favorite genre. I read very widely, and enjoy books very widely. I love biography, autobiography, history, magic realism. I have a taste for American history, particularly Civil War books. It's always been a grand ambition of mine to walk into a library and find books which interested me in every section: In other words, that I as a man, as a mind, have become broad enough to become interested in everything. I'm a long way from that, but it's an ambition. As to favorites? Poe, German magic realist Gunter Grass, Yokio Mishima, Jean Cocteau, Melville. Above all, Melville. "Moby Dick" is a bottomless well of glories. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Washington,D.C.: Stephen King has said some very nice things about you. Are you friends? Did you visit him after his accident? Clive Barker: Steve and I are close fellow travelers. But like many authors who travel the same path, we are rather insular and careful with our privacy. Whenever I see Steve (which is irregularly) the encounter is always delightful. It's as though no time has passed between this meeting and the last. Surely the best sign that our friendship is enduring. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miami, FL: Do you sell your artwork? If so, how much does it sell for? And how could I buy it? Clive Barker: Well, this is a huge question. I have just created 250 oil paintings for the Abarat Quartet, which will be going into the Disney vaults until the movie of my books has come out, at which point we will be organizing a massive tour of the paintings all around America so that people can get to see these large works (the largest picture is 13' x 9'!) and enjoy the spectacle of oil paint at close quarters. Then when the exhibitions are over, we will have an online auction, so that everybody worldwide can have a chance to buy something. Please understand that not all the work on sale will be large oil paintings. Some will be small drawings and sketches which will be available for a few hundred dollars. The oils...well, we'll see! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DC: Given the type of material you write and produce, have you ever feared for your safety? Has an obsessed fan ever made trouble for you? Clive Barker: Yes and yes. As recently as two days ago. This is always a concern. I'm not sure it's got much to do with my chosen genre; after all, John Lennon wasn't writing horror novels. I think the problem lies in my desire not to be holy unavailable. It drives my "minders" crazy when I go to a book signing and want to be as friendly and available as possible with my fans. They fear for my safety. I've had a man open his veins with a razor in front of me to show his commitment to me. These things are not comforting, but I don't want to be driven into enforced seclusion by the actions of a small group of obsessives who forgot to take their medication that morning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick, Maryland: I am a Huge Fan of yours as well as Stephen King and Anne Rice too. Do you think that would be interested in Co-Writing a Book with Stephen King, like Peter Straub? Clive Barker: I don't think I'm a literary collaborator. I enjoy working in the movies with other people immensely. When I became a part of the "Gods and Monsters" team and helped bring that picture into being, I was the proudest, happiest collaborator imaginable. When Bill Condon - who won an Oscar for the screenplay - received his award - I swear I was as happy as I would have been had the little golden phallus been coming my way! But writing is so private. Writing is so much about the intimate echoes of private memories, private fears. Writing requires that you sit very quietly and listen to who you are, and I cannot imagine sharing that process with anybody very successfully. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Washington: What was your involvement in the movie "Gods and Monsters"? Ian McKellan was wonderful in that movie, by the way. Clive Barker: Bill Condon, who directed the movie and adapted the novel "Father of Frankenstein" into a screenplay, came to me asking whether I would help use my clout in Hollywood to get the picture set up. I said I would. I loved the book, I loved the subject of James Whale, and most of all, I love Bill, who had done a very fine job on "Candyman 2" for me and had in my opinion been treated very poorly by the critics when the movie came out. Bill was kind enough to call me "Gods and Monsters" guardian angel. That's what I hope I was. I used whatever connections I had to get the picture up and running, but the genius of the movie is all Mr. Condon's, Mr. Frazier's and Sir Ian's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Silver Spring, MD: Is there some connection between your sexuality and your genre of preference; i.e., as an out gay man, do you feel any special connection to your characters? Clive Barker: I think these are two separate questions. Yes, there's absolutely a connection between my sexuality and the fantastique: by which I mean all forms of fantastic fiction, including horror, science fiction, sword and sorcery,and children's fiction. The connection is this, that a gay man or woman in our present culture is brought up to feel like an outsider looking at the world through very different eyes to those of the children around him or her. What did I find monstrous as a child? Well, not the conventional objects of demonization (I identified with those) but with their oppressors; because even before I fully understood the politics of this I knew in my gut that the oppressors are a universal idea. The creature pursued through the woods by howling, vengeful pitchfork wielding villagers could be you or me, and the leader of the villagers could be George Bush Jr. It's good to be an outsider sometimes. And sometimes it's very lonely. I think what's important for a writer is that he or she play from their strengths. Mine were my wild imagination, my strange take on what it is to be human, and my sexuality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapel Hill, NC: What does a master of horror such as yourself do for Halloween night? I imagine the routine haunted attractions aren't very frightening for you. Clive Barker: Well, every year I create a maze at Universal in Los Angeles, and this year the maze is called Harvest. It's been "harvesting" a massive audience for the last several weeks. Last night, an unbelievable 167% of the parks' occupants went through the maze. So part of my Halloween ritual has become creating something to scare the bejesus out of a bunch of people at Universal. Tonight, I will be out on the streets of New Orleans dressed in something provocative with my husband David at my side. The fun begins at sundown. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester NY: One of your short stories in "Books of Blood" was adapted to film: "Raw Head Rex". I happened to love the movie in all it's old fashioned monster movie glory. Are you satisfied with the film as well? Clive Barker: It's fascinating that so many people like this movie. It's really time I went back and looked at it again, which as of this conversation I will do. My memories of the making of it are somewhat painful, so that explains why I've been somewhat remote from the movie. Your enthusiasm, however, makes me think I should take a second look. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- corpus christi: how do you feel when people say there must be something psychologically wrong to write such fiction Eric Clive Barker: I think you have to take that kind of observation very seriously, because it goes to the idea of what is wrong and right in anybody's mind. Once you begin to say this person's mind is "right" and that person's mind is "wrong", you tread on some very slippery moral ground. My fictions are baroque, grotesque, excessive, violent, esoteric, erotic, etc. But they're also, I believe, therapeutic. I think an hour with Clive Barker is going to do a lot more for somebody's psychological well-being than an hour with, let's say, Pat Buchanan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester NY: Clive- I'm a huge fan. If you had to pick one book and one film that best exemplifies true "Horror" what would they be? Clive Barker: There is a book about the instruments used by the Inquisition which I guarantee will curdle the brains of anybody who cares about man's inhumanity to man, so that would be my book. As far as film goes, about two years ago HBO did a special about how we treat animals which contained material so graphic I could not watch it all, but forcefully reminded me that we do not treat the creatures with whom we share the planet with any part of the love, respect and compassion they deserve. That's a horror movie. Nothing that I can cook up from the supernatural realm will, I think, compare with the facts of life in the slaughterhouse of your local town. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment from USATODAY.com Host: Unfortunately we're out of time. Many thanks to Clive and to all of you...and have a great holiday!




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USA Today Chat Transcript
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Tuesday, Oct. 31, 3 p.m. ET Celebrate Halloween with one of the men Stephen King called "the future of horror": author/producer/director Clive Barker. He's online to talk about Imajica, the dream sea Quiddity, the islands of Ephemeris, his terrifying Books of Blood, and (of course) his nightmarish signature work, Hellraiser. Join in....if you dare. Missed the live chat? Read the transcript below: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Comment from USATODAY.com Host: Hello all, and happy Halloween. Please be sure to check out USATODAY.com's Halloween roundup.
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Houston, Texas : Which of your novels marks the fine line you draw between your previous incarnation as a horror writer and your career as a fantasy writer? Clive Barker: Hi everyone, and thanks for being here! My book "Weaveworld" from 1987 would mark the change. I have backslid on many occasions writing horror for the screen, and I may write more in the future, but it isn't a high priority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- boulder, colorado: Any plans on writing another book, involving the themes of the great and secret show and everville? Clive Barker: Absolutely! I owe to my readers a third book of that much delayed trilogy. I know what the book is going to be about, and that's why I've been slow to deliver it. It'll be enormous (and you know I mean enormous!). I'm a little anxious about the challenge of what needs to be done in the book; but it's going to be one helluva book. I'll start in a couple of years' time. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylva NC: I thought that the movie Lord of Illusions was sopose to be the first of a series... So I was just wondering what happened to the rest. Will we ever see then even if it's just on VHS or DVD? Clive Barker: I think we will see more movies about Harry D'Amour, and it will be as you anticipated, on DVD/VHS more likely than on the big screen. Unfortunately, the movie "Lord of Illusions" did only modestly well theatrically, and the powers that be did not think it deserved a theatrical sequel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prattville, AL: I haven't book shopped in a long time so I don't know if you have a sequel but my all time favorite is Imajica. I've read it at least a dozen times. If there isn't a sequel to Imajica will there be? Clive Barker: Wow! A dozen times! "Imajica" is my favorite amongst my books. I don't think there will be a sequel, simply because I feel as though thematically the narrative was satisfying and complete in itself. That is not to say that I might not wake one morning having dreamt a sequel into being. "Imajica" was a book which was fueled by literally dozens of dreams, which informed the direction of the narrative and the nature of the imagery. May I say, thank you for your enthusiasm for the book. I hope each time you read it you find something fresh in its pages. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Altanta, Georgia: How did you come up with the characters for Hellraiser? And the story for Weaveworld? I've read all of your books except Quiddity, which I will pick up this week. Stephen King and you are my favorite novelist. Clive Barker: Thanks for linking me for the great Mr. King, for whom I have boundless admiration. The Cenobites from Hellraiser were first drawn in a sketch pad as doodles. I find my mind works best when it's liberated from intellectual constraints. Doodling is a great way to get characters started. As to "Weaveworld", the story originates with a particular carpet, which was a gift to me from my ex-art teacher. I stared at it for many weeks, certain there was something waiting in its weave. There was. A novel. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DC: Why horror and not some other genre? Clive Barker: I think the work you write chooses you, not the other way about. In the next two years, I will deliver a large, very dark, supernatural book about Hollywood called "Cold Heart Canyon", and then deliver four short fantasy books called "The Abarat Quartet". The books could not be more different. But something in me requires me to sit down and write in these particular modes. If you were to ask me to write, for instance, a Tom Clancy style techno thriller, I couldn't do it. My imagination simply doesn't work that way. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fairfax, VA: The "Books of Blood" scared the living daylights out of me. Where did those stories come from? Good Lord. Clive Barker: Good Lord indeed! The stories came from many sources. "Midnight Meat Train" came from a sultry summer visit to New York, and my getting lost on the subway at midnight. "New Murders in the Rue Morgue" was written in five days while I was snowed in in Paris with my late lamented best friend, Bill Henry (who used to be theater reviewer for Time Magazine); Bill and I were stuck in a tiny apartment in the most ferocious blizzard Paris had seen in years. He wrote an article that later won him a Pulitzer. I wrote "New Murders in the Rue Morgue". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arlington, VA: Horror movies tend to be the most suceptible to serialization and sequels (including Hellraiser). Were you involved in the sequels to Hellraiser? It appears that most sequels are pretty poor compared to the originals (just take a look at Nightmare on Elm Street or The Blair Witch Project). So what's the point of making them, apart from $$$? Clive Barker: There is no point in making them, apart from money. You're absolutely right that - with the honorable exception of "Bride of Frankenstein" - most sequels are imaginatively impoverished, mere echoes of whatever fueled the original. I was involved in Hellraisers 2,3, and 4, but not with 5, which has just come out. I was involved with the second Candyman picture - which is set in New Orleans, from which city I am presently speaking - but not the third Candyman movie. In future, I think I will have less and less to do with the making of sequels. It's a wretched, frustrating business. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York, N.Y.: Which is more fun, writing or movies? Clive Barker: Writing always. There are no censors when you're writing. No budgets. There are no producers. There are countless things in my fiction which could never be put on the screen, however sophisticated special effects become. Why? Because the greatest special effect is the human imagination. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New York, N.Y.: Who are your favorite authors? What's your favorite genre of book? Clive Barker: I don't have a favorite genre. I read very widely, and enjoy books very widely. I love biography, autobiography, history, magic realism. I have a taste for American history, particularly Civil War books. It's always been a grand ambition of mine to walk into a library and find books which interested me in every section: In other words, that I as a man, as a mind, have become broad enough to become interested in everything. I'm a long way from that, but it's an ambition. As to favorites? Poe, German magic realist Gunter Grass, Yokio Mishima, Jean Cocteau, Melville. Above all, Melville. "Moby Dick" is a bottomless well of glories. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Washington,D.C.: Stephen King has said some very nice things about you. Are you friends? Did you visit him after his accident? Clive Barker: Steve and I are close fellow travelers. But like many authors who travel the same path, we are rather insular and careful with our privacy. Whenever I see Steve (which is irregularly) the encounter is always delightful. It's as though no time has passed between this meeting and the last. Surely the best sign that our friendship is enduring. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miami, FL: Do you sell your artwork? If so, how much does it sell for? And how could I buy it? Clive Barker: Well, this is a huge question. I have just created 250 oil paintings for the Abarat Quartet, which will be going into the Disney vaults until the movie of my books has come out, at which point we will be organizing a massive tour of the paintings all around America so that people can get to see these large works (the largest picture is 13' x 9'!) and enjoy the spectacle of oil paint at close quarters. Then when the exhibitions are over, we will have an online auction, so that everybody worldwide can have a chance to buy something. Please understand that not all the work on sale will be large oil paintings. Some will be small drawings and sketches which will be available for a few hundred dollars. The oils...well, we'll see! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DC: Given the type of material you write and produce, have you ever feared for your safety? Has an obsessed fan ever made trouble for you? Clive Barker: Yes and yes. As recently as two days ago. This is always a concern. I'm not sure it's got much to do with my chosen genre; after all, John Lennon wasn't writing horror novels. I think the problem lies in my desire not to be holy unavailable. It drives my "minders" crazy when I go to a book signing and want to be as friendly and available as possible with my fans. They fear for my safety. I've had a man open his veins with a razor in front of me to show his commitment to me. These things are not comforting, but I don't want to be driven into enforced seclusion by the actions of a small group of obsessives who forgot to take their medication that morning. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frederick, Maryland: I am a Huge Fan of yours as well as Stephen King and Anne Rice too. Do you think that would be interested in Co-Writing a Book with Stephen King, like Peter Straub? Clive Barker: I don't think I'm a literary collaborator. I enjoy working in the movies with other people immensely. When I became a part of the "Gods and Monsters" team and helped bring that picture into being, I was the proudest, happiest collaborator imaginable. When Bill Condon - who won an Oscar for the screenplay - received his award - I swear I was as happy as I would have been had the little golden phallus been coming my way! But writing is so private. Writing is so much about the intimate echoes of private memories, private fears. Writing requires that you sit very quietly and listen to who you are, and I cannot imagine sharing that process with anybody very successfully. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Washington: What was your involvement in the movie "Gods and Monsters"? Ian McKellan was wonderful in that movie, by the way. Clive Barker: Bill Condon, who directed the movie and adapted the novel "Father of Frankenstein" into a screenplay, came to me asking whether I would help use my clout in Hollywood to get the picture set up. I said I would. I loved the book, I loved the subject of James Whale, and most of all, I love Bill, who had done a very fine job on "Candyman 2" for me and had in my opinion been treated very poorly by the critics when the movie came out. Bill was kind enough to call me "Gods and Monsters" guardian angel. That's what I hope I was. I used whatever connections I had to get the picture up and running, but the genius of the movie is all Mr. Condon's, Mr. Frazier's and Sir Ian's. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Silver Spring, MD: Is there some connection between your sexuality and your genre of preference; i.e., as an out gay man, do you feel any special connection to your characters? Clive Barker: I think these are two separate questions. Yes, there's absolutely a connection between my sexuality and the fantastique: by which I mean all forms of fantastic fiction, including horror, science fiction, sword and sorcery,and children's fiction. The connection is this, that a gay man or woman in our present culture is brought up to feel like an outsider looking at the world through very different eyes to those of the children around him or her. What did I find monstrous as a child? Well, not the conventional objects of demonization (I identified with those) but with their oppressors; because even before I fully understood the politics of this I knew in my gut that the oppressors are a universal idea. The creature pursued through the woods by howling, vengeful pitchfork wielding villagers could be you or me, and the leader of the villagers could be George Bush Jr. It's good to be an outsider sometimes. And sometimes it's very lonely. I think what's important for a writer is that he or she play from their strengths. Mine were my wild imagination, my strange take on what it is to be human, and my sexuality. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chapel Hill, NC: What does a master of horror such as yourself do for Halloween night? I imagine the routine haunted attractions aren't very frightening for you. Clive Barker: Well, every year I create a maze at Universal in Los Angeles, and this year the maze is called Harvest. It's been "harvesting" a massive audience for the last several weeks. Last night, an unbelievable 167% of the parks' occupants went through the maze. So part of my Halloween ritual has become creating something to scare the bejesus out of a bunch of people at Universal. Tonight, I will be out on the streets of New Orleans dressed in something provocative with my husband David at my side. The fun begins at sundown. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester NY: One of your short stories in "Books of Blood" was adapted to film: "Raw Head Rex". I happened to love the movie in all it's old fashioned monster movie glory. Are you satisfied with the film as well? Clive Barker: It's fascinating that so many people like this movie. It's really time I went back and looked at it again, which as of this conversation I will do. My memories of the making of it are somewhat painful, so that explains why I've been somewhat remote from the movie. Your enthusiasm, however, makes me think I should take a second look. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- corpus christi: how do you feel when people say there must be something psychologically wrong to write such fiction Eric Clive Barker: I think you have to take that kind of observation very seriously, because it goes to the idea of what is wrong and right in anybody's mind. Once you begin to say this person's mind is "right" and that person's mind is "wrong", you tread on some very slippery moral ground. My fictions are baroque, grotesque, excessive, violent, esoteric, erotic, etc. But they're also, I believe, therapeutic. I think an hour with Clive Barker is going to do a lot more for somebody's psychological well-being than an hour with, let's say, Pat Buchanan. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rochester NY: Clive- I'm a huge fan. If you had to pick one book and one film that best exemplifies true "Horror" what would they be? Clive Barker: There is a book about the instruments used by the Inquisition which I guarantee will curdle the brains of anybody who cares about man's inhumanity to man, so that would be my book. As far as film goes, about two years ago HBO did a special about how we treat animals which contained material so graphic I could not watch it all, but forcefully reminded me that we do not treat the creatures with whom we share the planet with any part of the love, respect and compassion they deserve. That's a horror movie. Nothing that I can cook up from the supernatural realm will, I think, compare with the facts of life in the slaughterhouse of your local town. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Comment from USATODAY.com Host: Unfortunately we're out of time. Many thanks to Clive and to all of you...and have a great holiday!




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